[NTG-context] CSRoman again
vit.zyka at seznam.cz
Mon Dec 19 20:10:05 CET 2005
Hans Hagen wrote:
>> I've spent some time experimenting with LatinModern font. After all I
>> was able to use it, but I found I hate it.
>> 1) The have accents positioned in a ugly way (or at least, in a way
>> not common in the Czech typesetting)
Do you have the current version - 0.99.3?
>> 2) Some accents do no work, for instance \"o (at least this doesn't work:
> don't use that one, context will load map files for you (like il2-.....)
> it looks like you load the wrong map file
>> Is there some way to get privately back to CS-Modern fonts? It seems
>> these fonts are redefined to Latin Modern, so I can't use them. Please
> you can take a look at type-old.tex, and copy the relevant mapping
> (il2)to a local typeface file and load that one (as long as you make
> sure that the definitions are seen last)
> another option is to use a private map file (or a file with
> \pdfmaplines) that map the latin modern fonts to csr fonts (maybe a
> better options; the metrics that tex uses are the same anyway)
> anyhow, a few remarks:
> - at the last bachotek there was a talk about czech type design and one
> of the remarks was that fo rmany fonts this whole accent business was
> more a matter of taste than of quality (i will not quote the speaker on
> czech typesetting tradition here-)
Probably Karel Horak. There was done big improvements since this time
(spring 2005). So I have to support Hans's opinion.
There was a HUGE discussion on the Czech TeX list before and during
Boguslaw's lecture in Brno (nov 2005). The result was:
- LM is suitable for Czech typesetting despite of some minor compromises
followed from multinational typesetting.
- Boguslaw admited some minor bugs in LM and promised to fix them. He
also carried out many notes and proof sheets.
- LM is much more consistent over the whole CM family.
- CS Type1 has many bugs in accents (nearly in any non csr10 font).
> - if one goes open type (some day soon for tex) one has to live with
> some general design (consistent positioning among a large range)
> - computer modern was never designed with all those accented characters
> in mind, and it will probably never look real great (plr, csr, vnr all
> look kin dof bad unless printed on high resolutions)
> - as far as i've heard, there will be some compromis cooked up for cs in
> the next release of lm, and afaik after that the majority of cstug will
> adopt the font, so in the end ....
> - csr is a rather limited font since it only implements a small subset
> of il2 (same for pl0 which also implements a subset; such subsets are a
> nightmare for tex developers and stand in the way for future tex's, this
> is why the lm project was started ... we need to survive)
> - just curious: do you always use cm fonts? there are other fonts with
> math nowadays
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