# [NTG-context] need help with creating a grid with context

Thu Oct 11 09:43:49 CEST 2007

```2007/10/10, Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists at gmail.com>:
> On 10/10/07, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> > 2007/10/10, Mojca Miklavec:
> > > On 10/10/07, MASON Peter J wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hope to create a regular (1cm spacing) grid on page, of bullets. Ultimately
> > > > over the whole page.
> > >
> > > Why not using MetaPost?
> > >
> > > \starttext
> > > \startMPcode % or \startMPpage
> > > for i=0 upto 10:
> > >   for j=0 upto 20:
> > >      fill fullcircle scaled 1mm shifted ((i,j) scaled 1cm);
> > >   endfor;
> > > endfor;
> > > \stopMPcode
> > > \stoptext
> > >
> > > Mojca
> >
> > Because TeX is faster in this situation and it takes more time to write
> > the Metapost code in external file, process this file, convert it into a PDF
> > file and include it into the document etc.
> >
> > I know what I say because this was one of the reasons why the sgf module
> > place the field within TeX and not with Metapost, a matter of speed and you
> > can reuse the objects.
>
> OK, that's a good point, and I fully agree with it. It's only that I
> would probably use something like that for really simple, short,
> one-page documents, where I would be concerned about the speed I need
> to come to a solution, not with the speed of document processing -
> half a second more or less.

This was in my case also a one page document but I created over hundret
full page graphics (needed for fieldstacks) and it is a real problem in this
case, the other problem for this solution was, I had to pass dozen graphic
position to Metapost and it was easier to do the whole work within TeX and
use Metapost only to create the needed graphics one and reuse them.

> With the route tex -> .plt file -> gnuplot -> tex (metafun) ->
> metapost (-> mpto or \sometxt) -> pdf, which I frequently use, the
> situation is much much worse, but it's still acceptable. ConTeXt
> became at least 10 times faster during the last three or four years.
> (Or at least that's my impression.)

I don't use gnuplot and I think a lua driven Tikz should solve this in
the future,
calculate the graphs with lua definition and draw the graphics with TeX macros.

> > You should also replace the fullcircle with drawdot in your example, drawdot
> > renders better on screen and looks better.
>
> Thanks. I always use fill fullcircle for some reason. Perhaps I should
> changle my habit :)

Sorry, my fault. What I meant was the difference between draw point and
drawpoint point where the first should be replaced in this situation with the

Wolfgang
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