[NTG-context] Last attempt: numbered margin notes in ConTeXt?

Joachim Kreimer-de Fries Kreimer at jpberlin.de
Thu Jun 5 23:41:52 CEST 2008


In friendly and helpfully answering to my late night question

>> How to create _numbered_ margin notes in ConTeXt?

Hans Hagen wrote 05.06.2008 at 10:04:
> quick and dirty command (instead one can use enumerations and do some
> complex setup)

Before ending this day, I want to thank you for your endeavour (also  
for Taco's attentive regret).

Dear Hans, you know what your code produces:

- indeed, the marginal notes are numbered (I can live with the fact  
that this is not the kind numbering of notes (cf. footnotes) one -  
the reader - expects);

- indeed the notes are no longer printed one over the other.

BUT:

- the accent sign ( ´ ) placed in the text body before the next word  
following that wich is explained in the marginal note will not be  
accepted and understood by the readers. It must, of course, be a  
superscripts number (the same number as in the referencing marginal  
note).

AND:

You won't really expect that someone outside the circle of you  
programmers who have developed ConTeXt, i. e. a simple (beginning)  
user of ConTeXt - even if highly willing to learn, is able to change  
this code in a way to get the wanted results (which I had illustrated  
with the pdf-file produced under extremly frustrating formating  
effort with OpenOffice Writer).

With two exceptions (\def and \setupinmargin) I did not find any of  
the used commands documented in "ConTEXt - the manual" or the  
"commands" quick reference of 2001. I could not verify in the http:// 
texshow.contextgarden.net/
because not available - as almost everytime. But from my last  
remember, when it - for once - was available, they are not in there,  
neither.

On the one hand I have still the impression, that ConTeXt is a highly  
adaptable and flexible typesetting system within TeX (probably my  
intents with marginal notes as help for understanding texts could  
find a solution),

on the other hand I'm almost giving up with my intention, because the  
only program/system with wich I a had hope to resolve this problem is  
not configurable for me, because ... I'm not a programmer or software  
developer, because you ConTeXt-developers don't care enough about  
usable, applicable documentation, because the cultural, didactical  
value of the old (hand-)  typesetting technique of marginal notes has  
come out of fashion, what ever...

N. B. I recommend the provision in ConTeXt for marginal notes in my  
intented sense warmly to you: they are an acquirement of civilization  
with big possibilities for the future and no other - at least no word  
processing program - is able to handle them yet in a acceptable manner!

Nevertheless, be it pure curiousness or still persistant hope in  
acquiring the skills for ConTeXt, I would like to know:

1.
in your sample code, Hans:
between \starttext and \stoptext you write once (the first time of  
occurrence):
> bla bla bla \mnote{xxx} bla bla

but in the second time:
> bla bla bla \mnote[foo]{xxx} bla bla bla

and then again:

> bla bla bla \mnote{xxx}

Has the [foo] after the first \mnote any relevance and which?

2.
the last row of your "document" text is:

> in \in {note} [foo]

in my pdf-output this appears as :

"in note 2"

This is not reasonable and desired (it should not appear). Was it a  
"slip of the pen" on your side or any purpose, if yes, which one?

All the best and
Goutgaun!
joachim
--
Kreimer-de Fries





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